I am not bashing anyone just trying to inform people that.
He isn’t developing a new product. This product is made by flipsky
No one on here has tested it - theres already issues with it look at this thread and read what people are saying
And it being labelled as the WWESC6 or Flipsky v6 ESC is just misinforming customers @trampa …
It has to be noted that esk8.de manufacture their own ESCs and have a great track record with their other vesc
How so?
And I agree, But not relevant seeing as how its Still based on 4.12 and this product is based on the 6
The focbox is based on 4.12 hardware.
If esk8.de said based on VESC6 or VESC6 clone what that make you feel better?
Yes because then it would be relevant. But if it’s based on 4.12, which it says so on the website, then it isn’t.
Compare it to the specs then 
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Now this makes more sense
Comparing specs regardless of VESC base that is.
I’m actually waiting for a couple of ESCs from esk8.de currently.
I’m not trying to say one is better than the other. I was just trying to point out the fact that it can be good to get more players in the market. Putting a new product out there is not cheap, regardless if you are developing it, buying it from Flipsky or Alibaba or wherever in bulk and people always scream and shout as soon as there is a product that is in a price category we think is unreasonable.
Aaaanyhow, sorry for rambling, that’s just my 2 cents!
I agree with you, the name given shouldn’t be a big deal. The specs given to the product and the quality is more important.
A new person may get fooled into buying a lesser product because of the name given
OK, you’ve made your point. You’ve completely derailed this thread 3 times. I get that you think your the VESC police, so just go hold hands with Frank and move along.
In my opinion these specs are not to be trusted since you can read similar specs on regular V4.12.
I think there is a group of people that want a reasonable cheap version of the V6 because of the reliability problems (burning the drv chip etc) if v4.12 since V6 uses another drv chip. Also the máximum voltage is increased.
It’s great to have many options, eu supliers etc but rebranding the products adds a bit of confusion.
I don’t care what people buy but the least I can do is answer someones question.
I’ve made my point thats all but you don’t need to compare me to frank 
To be fair, the specs has nothing to do with the reliability of the hardware. Comparing specs of 4.x and 6 feels very inrrelevant. I can say that I’ve changed more DRVs than i can remember on the 4.x and 0 on the 6. None the less, nice to see more players making interrations of the VESC 6. Best of luck!
And I still dont get this resilence to the TM. You’re making money of something you didint invent, for free. Just change the name. Sounds like a fairly nice deal…
Who mentioned TM?
WTH is going on here? Has this thread turned into a psycho bitch fest or what…
What I do not understand is the need to rebrand the products. It is not easy to distinguish which products are different. Won’t be better if everybody uses the same name on the same product? You can explain price diferences on customs duty, guarranty, shipping time…
Well, as I understand it (and I am by no means an expert), the VESC is trademarked by Trampa for Benjamin Vedder, meaning that noone else can sell their products under that name, even if it is based on the same open source code.
That means if what you say is to happen, everyone must agree on a new name and deal with what comes with that.
Flipsky already had a name for it, namely FSESC6.6. Pwrboards decided to give it yet another name, which makes it harder for customers to trace back the origin of the product and compare the pricing with other vendors, etc.
Same thing that happens with the countless of motor rebrands you see.
Calmdown there buddy 
I mean no harm. I read something about phonetics upthere, guessing that was in regards to TM.
So why would I want a v6 based controller? Primarily: no erpm limit & increased ampacity.
How has this happened (as far as I understand), with a new control chip, more efficient pcb layout to deal with heat, a heatsink and directfets. A v4 BOM can have much of this upgraded. Lets call these v5 for arguments sake, these would be Ollin or focbox for example…
Jenso has pushed a VESC v6 as hard as anyone, something around 130 BA, 150 MA & 190 AC… but he also runs a extra heatsink and is not climbing Mont Blanc. 80A cont. sould be reliable stock. No v4 can do that.
I did see this which is why i didn’t say anything aside from €289?.. figured he just hadn’t been reading as of late. He obviously has corrected it to match the market values. I see nothing wrong here either…(with OPs post I mean, the bashing is obviously wrong)
Hi @Cobber … we’ve been doing some testing as we are looking at incorporating the VESC into our new product. The amps quoted are only half the story. We found that 48v / 30a constant will get a V4.12 board with no heat sink and no airflow at room temp to 100 degrees in 5 minutes. It then isn’t’ much use until it cools down. It may run constant at 1/2 what we tested. In Benjamin’s video where he tests constant amps for the V4.12 and it’s at 34a which he says it can do all day. That’s correct, but only at a much lower voltage it seems. I recall he is using 21v in that video. We’ve tested Maytech’s new VESC 4.12 also with the heat sink which takes 10 minutes to get to the same point. I am not sure if there are modifications in addition to the heatsink, or it’s just the heatsink that doubles the time. We are testing a V6 soon and hope that this can meet our spec which requires 48v and 30 amps constant with no airflow. It does not appear the V4.12 can do this. I can share results from out testing once it’s completed. Cheers