“too long ago” my fucking buttcheeks
Does my money have an experstion date?
Fight for it! Be very respectful, yet persuasive. You can do this
Do you have a legal expense insurance (Rechtsschutzversicherung)? If so, I would have a talk with them to see if the would cover your legal costs… 
Sometimes a letter/email from a laywer can speed things up a little bit. (kann manchmal wunder wirken)
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The letter from a lawyer will do nothing. People have sent plenty of those and never get a response. I’ve started to come to accept that I have been scammed. It sucks but it’s apparently part of the world we’re in.
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Oh ok. Sometimes it helps (especially when dealing with pp)
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Yeah it was one of my first options to look into. Legitimate businesses usually start to comply after the lawyer letter…not Marbel. There’s countless reddit posts of people just like us and all the things they have tried.
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I have one for sale if anyone one wants to build a DIY version
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Hi and thank you for answers. Ich have a lawyer in Tampa and Marbel get letters from the lawyer regarding my money. But - no response. I can‘t understand this. In Germany I can go to Police and show this scam and it would determined.
It seems we are a lot of People they lost her money!
Greetings Ralph
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It’s definitely becoming a strange world. Before this happened I couldn’t imagine a company being able to take thousands of dollars from customers and never fulfill orders. Now, I hear about it all the time.
I can only assume Marbel has left for good, and at this point we have little to no chance of getting outlet money back. It took a while to sink in and accept I had been scammed. All we can do at this point is try to be cautious when placing preorders.
Personally if I ever need to do another preorder, I will make sure to have my money back long before the the card chargeback option has expired.
I feel for you man, and all the other Marbel customers that got scammed. Who knows, maybe karma does exist.
Damn , does no one know any individuals involved at the company?
What this companies need is a good bitter potion of publicity. Some article in Newsweek or Times telling all about their scams and then you’ll see if some of them try stunts like this in the future. Until somebody takes these drowning companies and put a hose right in their mouths they will never learn to respect us kickstart costumers. Just likeee… thatt. 
It fucks things for genuine companies trying to use the platform to get their stuff out there. Shame.
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I feel like this is going to be an ongoing scam until things like Kickstarter or preordering becomes more secure.
Marbel doesn’t care about bad publicity. I’m prettt sure they don’t even exist anymore. People have gone by where they claim to have an office and there was nobody working there.
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Yeah, but if you warn the entire continent (not to mention the rest of the world who reads Newsweek) about this practises, these scammers will never change their tactics thinking there are enough fools all over the world, a big part of believers of their BS to empty their pockets. You’ll see, when everybody starts to become aware of the shark infested pool these kickstarting campaigns are, companies will start to take us more seriously and not like now, some powerless, timid costumers, afraid to raise their voice; some scared Esk8 DIYers willing to lose their money now and then, here and there. 
What were the founders names? At least put them in here so it comes up in search results.
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Matthew Marbel
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Matt Belcher - Founder and Materials Engineer Nate Madera - Software Engineer Mary Marr - Marketing, Sales, and Brand Development Yliana J. - Electrical Engineering Louis Meschino - Photography and Video Brandin Lewis - Photography and Video Will Chase - Chief Test Rider
From the kicksarter site. You guys may never get your boards, but a lawsuit is something worth looking into.
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you literally can do nothing.
you paid 4 years ago. Paypal/credit card usually has 6 - 12 months protection
Assuming they wasted all the money on production or legit straight up scamming
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emailing wont work
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lawyer letter wont work. (You pretty much signed away all your rights when you backed with crowdfunding. You didnt buy shares, or invest in the company in any way
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the most you can do is maybe threaten/shitpost on all their social media, family, friends, glitter bomb, general turd throwing. (If that makes you feel better)
People need to realize to expect this when you are backing crowdfunding projects. There are some excellent companies and products, but also plenty of noob entrepreneurs with zero experience in mass production manufacturing and waste all your money on rookie mistakes.
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…therefore… Mar-Bel
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Mind blown
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I don’t know if anyone will be reading this and I myself did not read every message in this topic, but after some research I managed to get a hold of one of the ‘team members’ of Marbel: Louis Meschino. Sadly, he was scammed too, he only made the video’s. He was never paid for it. Here are the pictures of the conversation I had with him. Let me know what you think…!
