DO NOT use Friends and Family PayPal!

You are mistaken bro, USPS Physical Standards for Letters 1.1-1.3 inclusive makes no exclusion for brown paper. just sayin :wink:

New forum guideline: All payments must be made through brown paper bag sales. PayPal is no longer allowed.

I just confused so many people

It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong, you sir are a big man

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5’7 140 pounds…

Yea sure :joy:

I understood the joke tho don’t worry

I’m still hopeful some day that this will see the light of day. It has been and is working well in other forums.

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I agree @Michaelinvegas ! I’ve been jumping into sales threads and explaining how we do things. All other mods: pls do the same :slight_smile:

Paypal has seller protection. If you follow the requirments for seller protection you should be good. Things do go wrong sometimes but I would never use friends and family as a buyer because your screwed either way with using that option imo.

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The biggest protection for sellers is tracking on shipping. If you show you have a tracking number and its on its way, paypal is more willing to side with you as a seller. And as always take pictures when you send and recieve things to prove the condition they are in.

To take it a step further…If a seller suggests friends and family don’t buy from them.

Lots of us use paypal as sellers and don’t have issues with people doing chargebacks. Biggest reason? We deliver exactly what we say we’re selling. And if there ever is an issue, we take care of it quickly.

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That’s the way to do it, unless of course, you don’t want to grow your business…

Maybe we should have some sort of rating system for buyers and sellers?

Anyway all good ideas… the escrow can work, I’ve used that type of system paying for expensive services to people that you aren’t sure of…of course there’s an added fee, a separate website, various account crap involved doing that way…but maybe it’s unavoidable…

We def need something simple and protects both parties as much as it can.somethng that makes sense. Anything overly complicated will just fail…and people will go right back to dealing like black market.

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I think a system of rating the sellers will work. A system of rating buyers is difficult. You truly limit the size of the market that way. The only seller protection available is tracking + photos prior to embarkment + shipping insurance.

With those (3) measures i think you are as good as protected. Also when you do the transaction send the buyer the photos of the packaged product and tracking number. It will deter miscreance on their part.

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i don’t want to commit to anything but i could probably roll a new webapp to facilitate escrow.

build in a workflow, have funds sent to internal “escrow” account, and have it only release once the package is confirmed received.

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME! People would know they can trust me even though I’m young. An app is what we really need though. This site is atrocious on mobile

I have lost money paying with a check mailed via USPS, someone along the way got the envelope and “washed” the check and made out to some fake company and cashed, I lost $7,000 for a few days until the bank reversed it. Cash would be an issue as well. It’s a percentage game, eventually someone’s going to get jacked.

Holy fuck. I didn’t think anyone actually did that :joy:. ‘‘Twas just a joke

did what? use mail? or wrote checks? I got one stupid thing in my like that doesn’t do online payments or bills.

I was amazed anyone still did check washing, that’s some old scammer

Haha I meant mailing money. Doesn’t seem like a good idea to me especially with USPS, they are known for stealing packages

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I have never written a check in my life, and chances are, I will never write a check. By the time I get to the age where writing checks becomes viable, all payments will probably be PayPal-esque

just a quick workflow for escrow system: