Looks like it specifically forbids use on a circuit board: “A trademark should not be used on/for Products (e.g. circuit boards, hardware, services)”
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Yeah, I saw. My impression is still that the intention is to protect against VESC derivatives being called VESCs, such as the original FOCBOX. So while putting VESC on the PCB violates the trademark policies, I can’t see why anyone should mind that since the use is clearly in the context of “plug VESC here” as opposed to “this is a VESC thing”.
I already ordered the PCBs. I will write an email to Vedder to ask him if the use of the trademark is OK. I’m convinced he won’t have anything against it, especially since this is a non-commercial open source project.
Gosh, I guess I will take @b264’s advice next time. I don’t have time for dealing with nonsense legal issues.
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While I’m not with Trampa, it goes a bit beyond just VESC’s. Think of it as Nintendo. Their trademark not only allows them grounds to pursue anyone who dares tries to name a similar product of the same name , but to ensure that unwanted accessories arent associated all Willy milky with their product. Gives them the ground to say “err no” legally.
The difference in this case is that both products are open source.
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My screen finally came!
I’m going to put in some pins I’ve bent 90° in order to make attaching the bootloader easier:
I’ve already started working on a matching case for it.
I’m probably going to go with the landscape view so I want to put the buttons on the same side in order to keep the footprint as comfortably small as possible.
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Christmas came late this year. This beauty arrived today.
It’s absolutely fantastic. Quite an upgrade from my $5 HobbyKing soldering iron. No more coffee breaks until the tip heats up. 
Now I feel well prepared for assembling some Daves.
I had to test it and since I just had no useful soldering to do, here’s one more PF.
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Do you have a link to that. I likey 
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https://www.amazon.com/UY-CHAN-Programmable-Pocket-size-Acceleration/dp/B01MDTO6X7
Looks like this is it.
I’m interested…time to do some research! It would be nice to get rid of the big soldering station I have.
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Ive got one with a bc2 tip, it’s good for small things
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Oh shit…you can run these off of a Lipo?!
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Yeah and laptop charger
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I got mine from Banggood for a good price, but I waited 2 months. You can buy replacement tips here. I got the BC2 and D24. Both are very nice. The soldering iron comes with the B2 tip, which I like the best for PCB soldering. People say that you don’t get a good heat transfer with conical tips, but with TS100 that’s no problem at all.
I got this DC adapter, which works nicely with the soldering iron, since you can easily turn it on and off (you can’t turn the soldering iron off in any other way then by cutting off the power supply).
There are many TS100 reviews on youtube and it’s nothing but praise.
Update: I just found out it’s also available from HobbyKing.
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Good stuff, get the “pro kit” version – it comes with the non-useless larger chisel tip among other things.
Summary:
- ts100 is older/cheaper, plastic case runs off dc power (can run off lipo)
- ts80 is newer, metal case, usb-c, can run off a good usb-c charger or a battery bank (no lipo). less power rating, but more power delivered
- ts100 has more tips available
- ts80 better ergonomics
- both are very good, surprisingly so. spanks all older tech non-cartridge-tip soldering stations.
@mmaner I did ninja edit adding a bunch more crap 
EDIT corrected as per janpom, ouch lol
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I think you have TS80 and TS100 the other way around in your summary.
We’re getting a bit too much off-topic. If more people would like to discuss TS80 and TS100, I suggest that we move it to another thread.
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You’ll have to pry my Weller WESD51 out of my cold, dead hands because I’m not giving it up 
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Your Weller’s safe! Can be beat but not by a large margin.
Thanks janpom for the correction, and this is my last post on the soldering irons, but you started it!
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@moderators split topic
@deucesdown what did you say about chisel tips, anything good enough to do XT90 etc
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Sigh ok last one for real.
TS80 is the stronger one.
There are 3 variants here. The “Pro Kit” one has a different tip, medium chisel vs the conical on the other 2 variants. TS-D25. For that alone the Pro Kit is the only one worth considering. The kit versions also come with a flexible silicone-like wire, which is really nice for soldering and hard to get otherwise. The tip selection and aftermarket tips for the TS80 is not that good.
I found ebay (wait for 15% coupon) or aliexpress are the cheapest.
I just plugged mine into the wall with the provided power brick, and it took a few seconds longer than my main irons, but XT90 + 10awg no real problem.
The TS100 is not has powerful, but has a much bigger selection of tips, and the TS-C4 tip is quite a bit larger, so might do a similar job. You need to feed it I think at least 19v 3a or so for max power.
For really big stuff I like the 100w Weller pencil. Like battery pack serial connections, quick in and out if space permits. This thing has crazy thermal mass and is temperature controlled tip technology. It’s worth having.
https://www.amazon.com/Weller-W100PG-Farenheit-Soldering-Degree/dp/B07C43TSFK/
These cute irons are really nice, but I’m always using my used industrial/commercial irons. Pace and Metcal stuff after patient shopping on ebay. Hint, Pace has much nicer consumables cost and similar performance.
They’re fantastic though, if you have to bring the iron to the board.
Left to right: biggest Metcal tip, Weller 100w, biggest ts80 tip.
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