Super mini Maker-x ESC (Vesc compatible)

Are you gonna run it on a 48V 1500W front hub? Unfortunately for us, most likely we won’t find out max performance, since if the maximum power is 1500W at 48V, which means 32 Amps max. I’m not sure how this motor will behave if you apply more Amps

@Drom People put 5-6kw through this motor… :slight_smile:

Okay… Unfortunately, as some predicted (@linsus) I have problems with the x-esc :frowning: The moment i go over 50 amp in the vesc tool (motor amps or bat amps) The vesc just shuts down when applying a good amount of throttle from stand still :-/ My absolut max, is set at default (150 amps)

As mentioned above… I use this vesc with a e-bike hub wheel on 12s, in sensored FOC mode. I had problems with motor detection, but after i raised the “I” to 10 Amps… and reduced the Erpms to 200, the detection was succeeded. I use a hand throttle, so the vesc is set up in ADC mode and only “Current”

I was hoping for a high current vesc, instead i got a low current vesc :stuck_out_tongue:

I have 5 pcs 1000uF 63v low esr panasonic Caps. lying around. Could this maybe be a fix @linsus ?? I have contacted @YUTW123 But i do not have high hopes :frowning:

Btw. i have no fault / faults in the Terminal… but given that the vesc just shuts down (reboots) the faults also got deleted right ??

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@Silverline Good then, I always wondered how such a big motor can only be 1.5kw. 5kw continuously or a few mins/secs?

Please give support to this guy, he gave a big favor to all of us by risking the first to test this ESC :slight_smile:

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I’m not sure… But my plan was arround 80amp max (4000 watt) but at the moment i cant even go over 50amp… I will give some more capacitanse a test. The caps on the PCB is small…

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Try the Caps, should help with the ripplecurrents atleast. Parallell em over DC input. Otherwise I’d try 10S and maybe you can reduce the spiking abit which is probably what is causing your situation. Regardless. I doubt you’ll be able to draw 100+ amps if you’re having trouble at 50A already. You might experience bit better performance if you avoid gunning the throttle. Then again, you’d probably never reach the currents you want with that kind of operation…

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I doubt simply adding capacitors will solve this. It is probably due the mosfets and their design. Or some other design bug in the system. This was my concern with a manufacturer making claims that don’t make sense when you compare them to what is already on the market.

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This didnt help at all :frowning:! This vesc is garbage, dont buy it.

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Im out! never replied to me anyways. so good luck fantasy dude. Thank you @Silverline for testing this for us.

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If i dont get a refound, i start a PayPal dispute

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Caps need to be as close to the vesc as possible, not sure how long those cables are :slight_smile:

Not long… this is not the problem :slight_smile:

Darn thought the XESC was going to be good. I’m glad I had my apprehensions about buying it. I’m thinking a UNITY at $199 is a much better deal, with my target of 80A.

Isn’t a Unity a similar size to a pair of x-ESCs with the case?

Doesn’t look good

So to conclude, the XESC 6.6 has an issue/flaw by design. It isn’t capable to delive more than ~45A, which is pretty devastating considering size, wheight and cost. <-So a no go.

I purchased the “Super mini Makerx ESC” from them and got it on the last week. I didn’t tested it yet because I’m a bit bussy lately. And I also had difficulties to get a test setup with telementry (metr pro) running because I missed/forgot that they use different (smaller) connectors (I think/hope that these are JST-ZH 1.5mm connectors we will see when mine arrive).

Anyway I made some pictures for a quick closer look (maybe an review when I got everything running) on the -in my opinion- more interesting “MakerX mini FOC”.

A nice touch, (I guess) they use some kind of routing packaging service for shipping to Germany, this way the package slipped through customs. I didn’t had to paid tax or VAT for this one:wink: just the 135$ with quite fast (6 days) free shipping. image

The ESC came well packaged in the small box whith proper antistatic foam+shelding bag. As silverline said about the 6.6 single the casing is an all aluminum nicely sandblasted and anodised (I love that kind of finish). It is also well labeled (It strongly remids of stewii’s ESCape labling which, just so good tp read and such a clean look)

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It came with these accessories: 3 matching bullets for the motor wiring, a female XT60 for BAT to match the presoldered ESC, connectors with 5 cm of cable for PPM(3 pin) and hall(6 pin) [? at leastI guess that] and also the usual cheap micro usb to usb-A. image

And now just as a comparison and to get a feel for the tiny size (I don’t had a banana for scale and forgot to make a picture with something well known like a 18650) a Flipsky FSESC 6.6 (the one with housing and pushbutton Antispark) Anyway the “mini FOC is really cute” . I didn’t made a picture but I also weight the mini FOC with plugs, cable and it’s heatsink housing the mini FOC weighs just 86 g and is really small.

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Now the internals, they don’t look bad even the small resistors are well soldered (even though some joints would be a bit happier with a tiny bit more flux, but we all know there is never enough flux). The curcuit board is well cleaned but not conformal coated (something I will add once it proves to meet my expectations in testing) *please curse me for making a picture in horizontal mode and sorry for the distortion

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The heatsink/casing was thermal padded on both sides on expected heat sources, the compression overall OK but I think they should try to accommodate thinner thermal pads for better conductivity (thermal pads are not really well conductors after all)

Now a quick glance on the connectors, they are marked on the board when possible (it is on the casing anyway) but mostly not because it’s so tight on the board. As I said these are not the usuall JST-PH 2.0 mm but instead something smaller, I think and hope it’s a JST-ZH connector type 1.5 mm but it could also be a GH (1.25 mm) or SH (1.0 mm) I’m not really sure the time will tell (when my connectors arrive). image

I have to admit that this ESC isn’t planed to be used on an esk8 but on a reasonable sized ebike hub motor instead. It is reserved for my nicely looking NSU, just as a sweet everyday commuter. To get caught with an ilegal DIY ebike is way less likely than with an esk8 after all in germany (I will keep and ride my boards, calm down, just commuting will be with this one) image image

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Cooles Radl :+1:

Looking forward to your review!

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I didnt pay VAT. And custom either :slight_smile: looking good. fingers crossed that yours are working properly. I have a hard time getting in contact with Ebmakers, in order to get a refund though :frowning:

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Did you really think the performance would be as good as a genuine vesc? Even the unity has had issues shutting down under high load of late.

You can never believe the marketing claims of esc vendors without extensive lab and field testing to back up the claims.

I think the only vescs that didn’t have this shutdown issue is genuine vesc 6 or clone or the old focbox.

Sorry you had a bad experience though. If only the performance was as good as the looks.

Thats why I buy a genuine vesc 6 now.

But i was hoping that the x-esc would not just rebooting the moment i set it higher than 50amp in the GUI.

We are very sorry about your ESC and we will arrange a refund for you as soon as possible.
and You don’t need to send the esc back.

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