Tramp-esc has a nice ring…
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I keep trying to see it from @trampa’s viewpoint (that it is good for the community), but I can’t. It is forcing vendors to not use Vedder’s amazing trademarked esc (neatly avoided saying it), copy/ improve it slighly and sell under a different name. Some profiteering vendors will use the excuse that because their product hasn’t got the slightest hint of Vedder’s name in it, they don’t have to support Vedder’s open source project. This could be disastrous, BUT I respect @trampa helping Vedder with his huge workload and for leaving the project open-source (he could have advised Vedder to make it closed source)! For this reason and the fact that legally he is the only person with rights (I think from what he has said) to sell the esc under its old name, his should be called the VESC and the name for other vendors is to be decided.
Basically, don’t be rude (even if you don’t like what @trampa has done) as from what I have read it was bound to happen and @trampa has been kind to vendors (giving them other options)
The Vesc improve yes, Since Chacka has also contributed to this And many other people here And honor the name of Vesc But do not deteriorate or build cheaply to earn a lot of money. The Vesc has not deserved this
Calling a company out for poor judgement is not rude. A company trying to strongarm their will over the sector is rude. Trying to spin this action as some benevolent charity is condescending and rude. We ask of for transparency and honesty, that’s all.
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We have got honesty Vesk is TM and Trampa can only sell it How much honesty is needed This is honest and fact
Could be that Trampa just killed the vesc, this community was a important part on the task of make the vesc visible to all, newbies and people in general. It will be the same community who make the new name and talk about it, who is going to talk about the vesc? Just Tampa? Him alone in that ugly webshop? Humm For the forgotten vesc R.I.P
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I suggest that the facts are accepted without emotion and a new name for the esc that most use in their builds is discussed that vendors can use for their VESCs (had to use it but avoid using it from now on unless referring to @trampa’s product).
I think this could be a tremendous opportunity for a new off-road board company and/or esc designer to step in and share in the market that was previously dominated by others. We’ll either see stagnation or dramatic innovation from this. I for one hope it’s the latter.
I love your Yoda style, keep it up! 
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Probably a translation from German - I am happy to be luck enough to talk on the internet in my first language! Keep it up @esk8!
If you read Trampa’s comments they do a lot of dancing and diversion from the fact that they just upended the sector. Their spin machine is in full throttle. See what I did there?
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Suggestion for the name for vendor’s esc: NESC (new ESC)
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make a poll
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I think I will make a new topic for it - this is no longer VESC news and most people don’t like long threads ;).
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Done - reply suggestions on the new thread (https://www.electric-skateboard.builders/t/new-name-for-vesc-poll-copyright-issue-with-current-name/23047?u=print3r).
So let me summarize this. VESC is trademarked in Europe and not the United States, China, and Australia at the moment. That means VESC can still be used in United States, China, and Australia until registered. Because of the language said, the use of BESC, V3SC, BESK, V3SK, BESK8, V3SK8 is still up for grabs coming close to VESC spelling. If in Europe, unless you are Trampa, you must reference all VESC as compatible with software or under your own brand.
After I make this post. Good luck to anyone trying to get a VESC trademark in China because their rules do not apply to roman letters and you have to work with someone in China to get your trademark in China as my Chinese friend has told me.
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That’s nice to hear and know So Maytech is the winner And can produce Vesc without problems
True, but when everyone moves over to the new name, Maytech and @trampa will be the only ones selling esc’s called ‘vesc’. So don’t worry @esk8, if you work hard on choosing a name everyone likes and uses, you can continue to beat Maytech.
Maytech does not care The ESCs are not the quality you want
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I do hope Enertion do not stop selling their VESC-X because of the Trampa-In-vesc-tigation-Force. I think it’s the best quality per price of all the ex-VESCs out there
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