Help with upgrading Trampa Urban Electric Carver to Mountainboard

If you want more stability you can switch to ATB hangers, the Infinity’s are the cheapest and already have drilled holes for both spring postions. But then you should buy some different bushings and need new bearings (ID 12mm). With ATB hangers you could also mount 8" wheels in the future (with 66T wheel pulley). The motor mount fits the ATB hanger. For real offroad (very rough and uneven environment) you definitely need bindings and at least yellow dampas.

Regarding motor(s). The cheapest upgrade would be getting the SK8, they stay cool and have more power especially uphill. If you want to climb hills like a boss get 2 of them and a second motor mount and Vesc6. But then you need the ATB hangers.

Unfortunately no.

Here something for your eyes, maybe it helps with your decision…

Urban Carver with ATB hangers and 7" and once with mini hangers and Gummies.

And compared to the mountainboard

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Do you think its a dumb idea to purchase a gear drive and mate it to the mini hangers? Or should I be a patient sob and wait till I can get my hands on full sized ones

Ive been thinking about just upgrading to the full ones, but then Ill have minis sitting around that I dont want(and while I greatly appreciate getting them for my Secret santa, I dont know If theyll be fully utilized :man_shrugging:)

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If you want to go to a fully mtb, I think it is better to sell your board and start building a new.

An ATB have wider trucks and a other deck (holypro).
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I don’t think there is a gear drive for mini hangers available, also no support bearing possible. I wouldn’t modificate the motor plate. But anyway you need machined hangers or maybe this new truck/hanger could fit, too.

http://www.trampaboards.com/cnc-precision-vertigo-emtb-truck---16-inch-wide-with-12mm-hollow-axles-with-vertigo-baseplate--steel-kingpin--p-26391.html

Welcome to the club, since weeks I can’t decide :laughing:

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Thanks for this @rich. This helps, as I really wanted to see if the size of the boards were that much different. They don’t seem to be.

I’m probably not going to be able to go ‘full eMTB’ right now. I may have to first simply try to make my current rig a bit more powerful to deal with the hilly streets in my area. At a later stage I’ll work on a proper MTB.

I’m thinking that even a different motor might be better - perhaps even a 6374 170Kv to replace my current 6364 136Kv.

Edit: the above paragraph is exactly what you recommended! Sorry, didn’t read.

Is Etoxx’s Mini Gear drive not for the Mini Hanger?

Mini means just the 1:4 gear ratio and they lighter and use pom(?) as wheel gear. As far as I know you can use them on any trampa hanger as long as the hanger is machined.

I can’t find the information on the etoxx side, but looks like @370HSSV selling one with machined mini hanger

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Is this because 2 motors won’t fit in the mini hangars?

Two motors will fit on your mini hanger too. Just you need to have a look on the motor size. For example the sk8 6374 motors way longer than 74mm and they wouldn’t fit on the mini hanger.

Should I specifically go for the 149KV? I’ve been reading a lot on this form and am still very confused about what KV is best.

The less speed you need, the lower I would go in the kV. Everything between 130-190kV will work. I personally think 150-170kV is a good range for speed and torque.

Like @Andy87 said, real 6374 motors like APS or Unik/Maytech fit, it’s tight but possible and you have to mount the second motor mount with the motor already mounted.

The SK8 motor including nipple is almost 90mm, it’s huuuuuge :smile:

Do you run on 12s?

Ok, so if I stayed with 6364s they would.

Yip.

How many teeth does your wheel pulley have?

The cheapest option then sounds like just sticking with a single motor but upgrading to. 6374 149kv. However, this may still not give me a longer term solution.

The next option could be to upgrade to dual motors and stick with the 6364 136kvs to make it easier for them to fit. Obviously I’d need an additional vesc and more batteries or larger batteries (I’m currently running 2x 6s 6000mah GensAce) and another battery box.

I bought the board with a 14t but have replaced with a 13t. It helped a very small bit.

I mean the wheel pulley, I guess it’s 62 teeth, Trampa homepage says 66T but I think that’s a typo.

Ah. Didn’t read. Again.

Didn’t realise it’s 62? Is 66 really a typo? Must I go count them individually? :face_with_monocle:

In the description (parts used) is the 66T pulley but when looking at pulleys then 62T is for 6.5" Urban Treads, but both works. It would be good to know regarding choosing the motor kv.

Tpulley

My wheel pulley is silver, not the black, so perhaps it is 66.