E-Toxx DirectDrive VS Trampa Vesc6 VS Leopard 8072-170kv VS Nowind

um… lube it dude, spit on it if you have too :innocent:

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Ah Dude you are a ray of Sunshine :grin: I dont get it thats already includet in the Vesc Tool… checked vesc-project forum but dont find it I was not smart enough, but i think you even make it not really clear that it is already one click away. But i thank you really for the Input.

Thanks for warning about the app… i would like to use @Ackmaniac because i already have it I dont understand why i dont get the ackmaniac app running with the vesc 6… I know @Pimousse is using it with his Dual Setup… pméd a bit yesterday but dont make it running

But after all i now got the No-Limits FW uploadet :imp: Jöööö 130A MC 100A BC

I mentioned a hot parallel connector… Hobbyking style ones… Detected a broken solder connection :

Looking forward to new testride tomorrow afternoon…

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Definitely mate, with my battery fully charged, the punch it has, if I’m not careful and do a full lean it would throw me.

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@hexakopter, Ackmaniac’s app works perfectly with VESCs 6. I reverse engineered it for an Arduino project and communicated Ackmaniac the new protocol. Both Arduino and BT module communicate wiith a VESC 6 on my Dual setup. @nowind : sad we couldn’t arrange your BT to work. What version of the app are you using ?

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@Pimousse App version is 1.45

Should work. My last ride was with 1.45 as well.

To sum up :

  • You have VESC 6 with FW3.26
  • You wired correctly Rx HM10 to Tx VESC6, Tx HM10 to Rx VESC6 (+Vcc and GND)
  • You selected PPM + UART and 9600 baudrate in VESC Tool
  • You use VESC Monitor (by Ackmaniac), version 1.45. and
  • It does not work

Well, that doesn’t make sense. :confused: Double-check wiring maybe, but I don’t have ideas anymore to troubleshoot your issue. Can you try another HM-10 module ? (one of mine stopped working after an update of Ackmaniac app, don’t know why)

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Thanks for nice writeup. Yes all points are fullfilled and it dont work. Wait for another BT Module to test. Ackmaniac said also thats probably the modue itself Thanks again

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but if it works with a 4.12 then it can’t be the module no?

@Nordle Forget to reply… I dont think that they should get real hot Adjust gearmesh… more backlash Use lubrication

Cheers

That’s what I think, too. My HM-10’s working on HW 4.12 with FW 2.18 or 2.54 but not with FW 3.26. After downgrading they work again. But i use FOC with FW 3.26 so i can’t use the app :sweat:

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Maybe @Ackmaniac has some identifier to switch between protocols for v4 and v6 hardware. If that is the case maybe the “no-limits” firmware does not respond in a way that lets the app decide that it is a v6. @Nowind does the app work with @Pimousse’s instructions when using the normal firmware for the v6?

AFAIK, Ackmaniac uses first the COMM_FW_VERSION to determine wheter it’s the old or new firmware. I didn’t updated my VESC 6 since I received them (very first of them in the beta program), maybe it’s a old one that still works. I’ll check the version this evening.

Maybe VESC Monitor is checking the exact version, so updating a new one results to a bad selection of the protocol ? Just guessing.

It dont work with both… No limit Default 3.26

Be careful with to high Amp settings! The no limits FW has no limit and that can be fatal for the hardware. 120-130 is probably the most you should use. Did you also screw up the battery Amps to that level? Reliance really depends on the time you actually draw these amps. I bet its quite a short period in your case and that might be fine. Have a close look at the temp. We do not recommend to use the unlimited FW, unless you know exactly what you do. It’s experimental! This is why I wanted to ask Benjamin for a 120-130A limited FW for your setup. Obviously you are experimenting…

Frank

BC to 100A actually MC is 130A actually

It will be fine… sounds still safe i guess

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Should be fine, as long as you don’t draw that continuous, tiring to climb the Mont Blanc.

Frank

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hope that oneday I´m able to slap a Vesc in a Emotorbike or something bigger and go up the montblanc :wink: Amperage is still really low for this stuff

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Good that you now got it.:slight_smile: Hopefully next time I will describe things more clearly. Was thinking you as a VESC expert understand what I was talking about. :smiley: By the way your parallel connector looks not that safe to push 100A through. Not just because the XT90 was designed for 90A, but more because of the little solder contact. Adding some copper/wire there for a bigger contact area would be a good idea.

Do you know that the UART (TX and RX) pins are switched between HW4.12 and HW6.X? When you already switched them and it is still not working than its most likely @Ackmaniac’s App that is not updated for the newest firmware. I could just mention @rpasichnyk metr app again that is working fine for me and with its design, functions like video overlays and other extras I prefer it over Ackmaniacs app.

It should be no problem to climb the Mont Blanc with these settings, because the VESC decrease the current output when a temperature limit is reached. So it is not possible to pull 100A when the VESC is to hot. For example my cutoff starts at 80°C. I have reached that limit quite often, but no problem at all because of the automatic cutoff limit.

@TarzanHBK I can tell you that the current VESC 6 in a eBike with a big motor is already a lot of fun. :slight_smile: So I wouldn’t call it really low amperage for that stuff. Its more that other controllers can handle more than 12s. That is the bigger constraint I think.

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:joy: like a sharp knife… always on da point … I´m no master on the Vesc, i´m the master of destroying anything :smiling_imp: I should be product tester for big companys… Sometimes i´m just dumb, othertimes only mad :innocent:

Anyways

True on this shitty parallel connectors, refreshed them with more solder!

Hooked up a new BT module, same connection as before… RX and TX flipped

it WORK… but anytime you close the app, or shut down the vesc you have to do the following : connect USB log in VESC TOOL, read App configuration… write App Configuration… WORK again Not nice but we are coming closer :joy:

The new Values with 130A MC 100A BC 150 AC (stays same as before) Kicks you really HARD , power increase massive on lower RPM… NICE … But i get fault codes :

ABS over current ones :

Picture of setted values (little decrease the MC) :

Go down again to 100A MC, and get this Fault codes too… but not that easy as on 120/130 MC Meaning of easy : full throttle with lots of wheight on the reartruck on meadow :imp:

Let me know what ya think guys…

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Wait, your issue was reversed Tx/Rx ? :smiley: