Vedder's VESC 6.0

I only noticed that he did second part of the test with motor submerged under water. Pretty sure he remained dry for whole episode.

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Based on what I’ve seen of the new schematics, this thing is going to destroy the VESC-X and VESC 4.12 in performance and sensitivity.

Its going to be a matter of firmware in the next few weeks, but the hardware looks nearly done.

Fingers crossed!

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I really would like to see multi-vesc compatibility improved. I’m talking past traction control into virtual differential control, so that 4WD bicycle cars can be a reality. If every vesc gets its own air cooling and battery, I’m sure the vehicle can put up with a lot of weight and go quite fast. Of course, turn input, wheel diameter, turn radius and wheel spread would have to be noted into the vesc, Virtual differential can be a reality if you have all the proper specs (see italics) along with a constant update on the steer/turn position. Then VESCS would really outdo its current capability and become easily implemented into all sorts of home-built electrical vehicles. Batteries and general wiring is pretty easy for the other stuff, (lights, signals, horn, cabin climate, windows, etc), but having a solid multi-vesc and motor operation with a virtual differential would really be something. The vesc would become popular in poorer nations where smaller vehicle transportation (motorcycle sidecars and peddle bikes) is a lot more popular than 4-seater sedans :cold_sweat: because the vesc power ceiling (4x spec) is above their demands. those countries are already quite polluted too so they would benefit from the cleaner energy consumption. Virtual Differential! Woo!

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Can’t wait to get my hands on this! My vesc just went, so I’m waiting for this to replace them with! If he needs testers I would love to get a beta version!

That escalated quickly

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New video, i liked how smooth is the RC car on FOC in the end

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wow thats a serious rc car. 110A? HUH? :nerd:

This is why I generally trust the VESC: Vedder always seems to push his designs to their absolute limits. Can’t wait for VESC 6 :smiley:

I am so eager to build a bunch of these :heart_eyes:!!!

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Does anyone know what the proposed constant and peak output will be?

He runs 70A continuously in his VESC 6.0 demo video. Whereas he ran the same test with 4.12, and it could only handle 35A continuously without adding passive/active cooling

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Whoo! MORE AMPS!

Not that I enjoy increasing the entropy of the universe by wasting energy as heat, but 70 Amps sounds great!

Who will be selling these and does anyone know approximately what the price will be? @chaka @onloop @torqueboards @JTAG Also any chance of beta testing? I would love to test these.

Cost per VESC will be a smidge bit higher I suspect, but not much compared to 4.12 or VESC-X.

Check out Vedder’s forum for when he opens beta. This is going to be very different from the 4.12 in some ways so the firmware will need more testing than in previous VESC revisions.

I suspect it’ll be out on the market for full time use around March. Maybe earlier.

Also, I’m so giddy! 150k ERPM is gonna be mindblowing.

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Im way to excited! I’m also starting to get sick of riding around mono. Second it comes out im buying a couple! Also, can someone explain the performance increase from the new vesc? Speed increase, torque, max amp output, etc…

@Chris604 - Higher ERPM limit, more amps, more stable (hopefully) FOC.

FOC and ERPM’s were known DRV chip killers. @Chaka found >60k ERPM was pretty much a guaranteed dead DRV chip. This is why most folks kept to <200kv motors on 10s to keep ERPM down. FOC is another whole thread - you’ll have to know if you need it, BLDC works really really well, but FOC is the next step!!

Speed and Torque - all in your gearing and volts - regardless of ESC.

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Any update on the release of the VESC 6.0?

And does anyone think that dual 190kv motors with a 12s (li ion) battery is worth doing at the moment (limiting the erpm to 60k in bldc, due to the current vesc’s limitations which wouldn’t be the case for the new one which I would switch to upon its release) over a 10s for the extra speed/range/torque or anything?

The sweet spot for a 190kv is 10s with vesc. 12s is used for lower kv motors like hubs or 149kv and works great.

If you have a good vesc, you shouldn´t be having problems using 12s + 190kv when you limit your erpm to 60k.

190kv @ 12s works but it can get ugly if you don’t fully understand the effect coasting has on erpm,

How come the DRV isnt being replaced with something more robust so erpm limits are non existent?