Re-building Loaded Vanguard with Bamboo/Fibreglass/Carbon

Second this - any chance to carefully sand off the carbon and re-expose the veneer you wanted?

Looks beautiful and another great walk through!

Good luck! If that doesn’t work, looking forward to round 2 and what you do next!

sanded off old veneer and tried new - this time bamboo. worked very well this time and I just westherproofed it with a thin epoxy layer:

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What a natural beauty :heart_eyes: Clear grip tape should be used.[quote=“whitepony, post:1, topic:10460”] bamboo fiber bamboo fiber bamboo fiber bamboo [/quote]

Is the strength of flex the same as Flex2?

no, its a lot flexier! ill need very strong outer layers to tune the flex so that it suits me.

very happy with my work! under the vicious transparent grip, you can see the bamboo grain just slightly, but enough to immediatly understand that its natural wood! with the red truck and black trampas, its just a gorgeous combination imo :slight_smile:

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after my aesthetically very pleasing winter maintenance of my vanguard, I went back to my pressed deck. last night I had an idea about the shape I wanted to try because Im not a superbig fan of the bottle nose, I wanted a slightly wider stance, slightly wider board and possibly some splash protection.

decided to make the original stance longer by 3-4 cm on each side, but I cut off the bottle nose with a smooth circle. basically on that picture you can see the seemingly smaller board inside (the original flex 2 vanguard), a 3-4 cm shifted outline, the base of the original bottle nose and the new round nose in 2 version - one with original base stance and one with my increased stance.

cut it out with a jigsaw and sanded the edges a little

next to its shape donor - you can see how the base stance is wider (actually the whole board is wider too by about 1 cm), but the bottle nose it cut off

I increased the original camber a little bit, hoping for an even livelier board and carving experience

here you can see that its wider (well, not very well), but overall a little shorter

smooth camber

with the beautiful concave of the donor vanguard :slight_smile:

right now its 4 layers bamboo, 3 layers fiber + reinforced carbon patches for torsional stiffness which you can see in the picture (+ some extra hidden patches in the middle region where the original vanguard felt a little soft).

since I decreased the overall length, its not superflexy anymore, but still too flexy for my weight (not by much though). overall it might actually be perfect, if I use it for an all weather build, add wire channels and seal the rest with a top & bottom layer of fiber glass.

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Looks amazing, does it fit a sk3 6463 240kv with those 83mm wheels or would you rather go with 97mm for more speed/space. Wanna build one like yours

Where did you get the bamboo layers mate

I guess, since it also fits the 6355. the trampa wheels are only available in 83mm right now, but ted expects them to be available in 90mm around xmas. the wheels are really weird - they feel quite a bit harder than my 75A 90mm abecs, but they really grip a lot better. like REALLY a LOT! :smiley_cat:

seems kinda hard to get in europe - I bought it @ Bamboo Veneer

Thanks yeah i was looking for some bamboo the other day it seems really difficult- it almost seem worth while to get it imported from China

Really nice and clean. I can smell the fresh cut wood. :relieved:

Edit: What sand papers are you using? seriously. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

I wish I could mail you my vanguard for you to do it for me… lol it’s so nice

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Do you use your vanguard for your press?

I want a nice vanguard build by him too. My vanguard looks like an ogre compared to this build.

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yea, the thread is a little mixed up. started with pressing my very first own deck with the donorshape of my original vanguard, then I jumped ships to finish winter maintenance with the bamboo veneer and transparent grip. now that the old girl is sexy again, I went back to my pressed deck after I made up this very cool new modification of the shape! :slight_smile:

Thanks for clearing it up, so for the one with the transparent grip - was it just this “bamboo fiber bamboo fiber bamboo fiber bamboo”.

How would i try that out if i buy the veneer sheets.

Also would it possible to have a built in enclosure or would that make the bamboo too weak

the one with the transparent grip, red trucks and black trampa wheels was my original vanguard thats been running over 2000km now. for next season I wanted a more natural look, so I removed my black vicious, covered the wire channels ontop of the board with a 0.6mm bamboo veneer, clearcoated with a thin layer of epoxy, followed by transparent vicious grip tape.

the other storyline is my DIY pressed deck (the one with 4 bamboo plys, 3x fiberglass and carbon 45° unidirectional stripes with that new kind of shape = no bottle nose). I just restarted working on that after I fixed up my “old” vanguard flex 2 for next season. today I drew the new shape, cut it out and sanded a little. :slight_smile:

build in? nah, dont think so! I specifically want a very flexy deck with great damping and springy energy returns. any enclosure must be split and working it in means, the board will instantly be too stiff because of the decks thickness.

if i set it up to be electric, I would just follow my original vanguard build, since it works very very well. Loaded Vanguard Carbon Cast Ronin Single VESC 10S4P | Endless Sphere DIY EV Forum

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Ok thanks for explaining this to me :smiley:

What tools do you need for the fibreglass/carbon fibre bit - is it vac forming

yea, just used my original vanguard as shape/blueprint in a vacuum sack - check the initial post for the pictures.

if you dont have a board you love as a blueprint, it can be done like @MasterCho with some acrylic sheet for camber & concave. check his board building threads - they are amazing with great results!

Thanks your a god :smiley:

I am considering getting the bamboo from china if shipping costs are not too high.