Raptor 2 hubs alternatives

if by specs you mean power im not sure what the focbox will put out and thats the biggest variable for that. I set my escs to 100 motor amps and i forget what battery amps now but there’s the power part decided there. Speed…i dont think the raptor does 30mph and that’s standard on the 9 turn motor i sell with 12s.

i sell them through paypal for 500 a set with the other wheels and trucks

Raptor does 28… But I’ve been able to achieve 30 with some tweek

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Yea since the Raptor 2 doesn’t have a high top speed it’s easy to stay full throttle and experiment with tucking and what’s more efficient with your body, I’ve done 33mph on the 97mm Raptor 2 wheels so fun!

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They aren’t radial direct drive (hub motors) but even better are the axial direct drive system called “Carvon SpeedDrive XL” which should be coming out soon, will be the best direct drive on the market

At least, for now. @torqueboards also has an axial direct drive system in the works.

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For empirical measurements, I would compare things like coil resistance and continuous current rating. Both of those are kV dependent, so you’d need to wind a motor with the same kV as the Raptor 2 motor for a fair comparison.

But I think most people are more interested in real world testing like http://skatemetric.com/index.php/visualize-and-compare/

Edit: For comparing motors with different kV values, there’s kM, the motor size constant, which is 1/(kV in rad/s x the square root of the coil resistance). This is a measure of how much torque the motor can produce for a given amount of heat produced, and remains the same no matter what kV you wind the motor for.

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There are far more accurate ways to measure the winding resistance, but the VESC makes an estimate of resistance and kV in order to do FOC, so you can calculate kM just with the numbers from the VESC Tool. I’d love to get a spreadsheet of numbers together to compare all the motors.

Edit: I can’t find the kV value in VESC Tool? It should be pretty easy to calculate.

It does somewhere; I forgot where.

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So what (hub) motors would work out of the box on a Raptor 2? And give more or the same torque on 107 wheels?

Are you thinking of replacing the hubs on an R2?

Yes. Won’t sell my r2 hubs though :wink:

I’m thinking about buying hummies or carvons for my own DIY build. I want something like 10-12s 5p. It would be fun If I could test those motors on my Raptor 2 first.

Depending on what I like better the best motors will make it to my DIY, the others will stay under my Raptor 2.

Basically I want more torque, more top speed and more of everything else. Weight and cost are no problem.

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Lol. Good job predicting my follow up question hahaha

Wait until you see my 4wd carvon v4 sd. It’s a beauty. I’m taking pics as I go along so there’s no reason not to make a build thread.

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youre going to need escs that can put out more amps and that’s the bottleneck. the motors only put out the torque related to their kv and circumference and the amps put to them as determined by the settings on the esc and what it can do

I’m hopefully going to be testing raptor2 hubs on 12S4P with VESC6 in a week or two. I never tried it on 10S (stock raptor) and focbox but 12S and more amps should make this thing quicker. I bet the heat will be the limit. The motor internals is the beefiest hub motors I’ve seen and they use magnets that sit without a gap. Love it!

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but it seems the new 6 has the same software amp limits so would be the same power output. how high do you have them set already?

I’m not even remotely close to testing them with vescs yet :smiley: They arrive in a couple of days but still have to build battery and the rest of the stuff…

I’m saying you might get the same performance with the 6 as with the focbox if they both have the same amp limits which I think they do

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This is the goal. But it will take a bit of time. The current design I have from @psychotiller of the six shooter for hummie hubs would be time consuming to switch between, so it would be more like a semi perminant setup (though with 5 minutes of time, you could switch).

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This can is aluminium? Can you share more pictures of stator?