MKV3 - Carvon 2.5v Dual 97mm | VESCs | 10S4P Li-ion

Small review of nano x:

  • strong signal (damn, I was impressed by that, much better signal than the mini remote which it was really very good, I couln’t notice any signal drops, probably it uses a frequency that doesn’t clash with speed cameras or it’s just stronger, really nice job)
  • very compact (for guys with big hands like me it’s probably too compact, I have to operate the thumb throttle with the middle of my thumb)
  • simple but strange binding procedure, I’m not sure why but had to wait a bit (few minutes) before it could bind successfully but then it’s good

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It will be my default remote from now

because it’s a thumb controller it’s less sensitive so I’ve reduced my motor max from 60A to 50A and motor min from -32A to -27A to be able to control better acceleration and braking

edit: new ride log, much smoother with the new settings

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New Video!

@rpasichnyk I think the magic number for making the overlay match the video is 0.952 - probably you can change the js that produces the video and set its speed? I am setting the speed after importing it into the video editing software (premiere, fcx, imovie, shotcut, avidemux, kdenlive, openshot) at 95.2% and this time I think the sync is perfect trougought the video < 1 sec difference between the log and the video I think, I’ll test if it’s 0.952 for the next video as well - btw thank you for the zoom feature on the logs, very helpful

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I had set 60A total (my battery is 10s4p li-ion with samsung 25r 's) and had a fuse of only 40A - fuses can blow at a bit lower or higher amps / time deltas if they’re not good fuses - I will take a 60A fuse in the future but for now I want to stay a bit lower than 60A, I don’t think I need 60A on a cruiser board lol

I got a 50A fuse and I’ll try to set 25A per VESC

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I want to try FOC with my Carvon 2.5 single hub. BLDC is loud as hell. Louder than belt drives.

at what voltage are you running the carvon v2.5? also how much do you weigh? hills / crazy speeds or chill riding?

if I were you and had the possibility I would attempt changing to foc, the motor actually supports it if it’s not damaged (one of the two that I have has been slightly damaged [damn rock! :D] it doesn’t runs perfectly on foc, it stutters a bit at high amps but still runs more than fine for my usage)

I believe that if you monitor the vesc temp and currents via a bluetooth app like gpxlBen/@evoheyax - @rpasichnyk one or @Ackmaniac 's (which uses the least expensive bluetooth module) you can prevent the vesc from failing.

I guess that if you monitor values like input (batt) amps and vesc temp and make sure they stay on acceptable limits while you test-ride it … probably foc will work stable after that

Also follow jacob’s / vedder advice and put observer gain at 100 after the foc setup/detection, it works much better than the default (13.6 or something)

@Titoxd10001 helped me setting up my vesc. This is what I currently have:

Here’s Jacob’s instructions (he printed and included them in the package of his hubs) for setting up FOC, there are also some foc setup videos

If you have a backup vesc or if your vesc has some kind of warranty than those are probably the best ways to try foc :smiley:

I am using @goaxle vesc. They went the same way as chaka when it comes to upgrading their vesc’s. I think most problems with FOC was with 12s setups. My battery is 10s4p.

how much do you weigh? any long / steep hills during your usual ride?

edit: Vlad and MasterCho seem to have no issues… maybe you can try it? my suggestion is make sure it starts with a gentle push and accelerating slightly - then test breaks lightly then test accelerating harder and breaking harder in steps - go easy with your first test ride don’t go on supersteep hills or at max speed straight away :smiley:

I weight around 75kg. But I have a small backpack always with me. with some gear. not super heavy tho. …right now with BLDC when I get proper momentum I am riding some hills without any issue.

you’re light, I think that a single 2.5 @ 10s will be enough to drive you around, foc has less acceleration right when you start but when you’re over 10km/h you will get more torque than bldc I believe! also acceleration will be smooth than on bldc, but I guess you’ll get less top speed (which at least for me is totally fine)

I already have speed limit for around 22mph for riding the city. If I remember correctly Jerry was riding his Single Hub 2.5 at max 28mph.

top seed on flat should be the same for single and dual, on 10S I get 44km/h which are ~27mph with BLDC, on FOC my current max is 39kmh (~24mph) but I guess I can push it further

24mph in FOC would be perfect me. Good to know that. I’ll try FOC settings this week . I’ll let you know how it goes.

New video!

Ride log:

On this one I blew the fuse, duh, I had set 30A as my max input current per vesc because my battery can stand it but it was too much for my fuse (rated 40A) so I had to finish the ride/video there - I set 25A per vesc now and put a 50A fuse now :slight_smile:

edit: the reported current in the log overlays is for 1 vesc only

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I see that you are not afraid of losing balance and send your longboard to the water channel. :slight_smile:

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I dreamt about it once though lol, also that I let a guy try my board and he ran away with it / on it ^^ hope they’re not premonitions

edit: also I did that part of the commute for 3-4 months last year because I was working near whitechapel

new weekend, new video:

log:

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He tried to steal your board??!

it was just a dream ^^, but yes I’m a bit afraid of letting people I don’t know try my board in general because if they know how to ride a longboard and they run away, for sure I will not be able catch them :slight_smile: probably a feature to implement on the vesc firmware or on a bluetooth connected app would be a timed or remote kill/switch that makes the board slow down and stop after a cerain time after activating such a mode or if you press a button on your phone… maybe it’s just me being too paranoid lol

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@makevoid @naf just letting you guys know, I run a single 2.5 on 12s2p on foc, and I usually hit 32-34 mph, max I hit was 38 (slight downhill). I have yet to change observer gain, does, what exactly does it change?